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For New Wallers - looking for guidance?

  • 18/08/2008 @ 09:57 UMxx said:
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    The language discussion on the Wall attracted a number of contributions but the one that made me think outside of that discussion and reflect on how we are are on the Wall came from MeerCat - It has made me think of what it is like for new Wallers to come to the Big White Wall and try to see if this is a place that they feel they can be comfortable.

     

    These are Meercat's words: 

    One thing that has often confused me about the wall is that those who are regular posters often sort of continue a conversation across several TAs.  They know what they mean but as someone who is not always around to keep track I can get very confused!


    And for a couple of days I thought about this and my gut instinct is that Meercat is correct in what she has observed - we do have a few themes and "in jokes" that are part of the fun for the regulars and that is great for us.  However it is not fine for others trying to work out the broader Wall and not just those who are regular users.  If it serves to confuse others or form an obstacle for others to get a sense of the spirit of the Wall because we have become overly familiar of each other - then I reckon we need to reflect on how this might feel to those who come to "check out" the Wall.

     

    We need to have some fun - the Wall is a place for expression of emotions and so humour and laughter is just as important as being able to touch those other emotions.  

     

    Meercat I am grateful for your observation and your gentle way of bringing attention to it.  I am responsible for continuing conversations and jokes across TAs and bricks too I know - I am glad you have helped me become aware of this.

     

    I love this place and I want to encourage others to come and share the space - I needed to be reminded that it is not just language but also behaviour that can create obstacles for others to feel that they might fit in here.

     

    Thanks MC  love UM xxx

  • 18/08/2008 @ 18:40 Mebenji said:
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    Food for thought UM. I'm guilty of it too, but I can't say I feel particularly guilty - do you, when you've come into a conversation do you expect to be able to pick up on every thread of it, understand ever nuance of all relationships you suddenly see? Do you expect some one to take you aside and tell you the whole story so far, including all spin-offs? When I/we first come here we are faced with entering into what at first seems like a whole new world, populated with all kinds of people, bricks and TA's like various environments - we stumble around awhile...I've missed things I've later thought I would have felt better, or at least more able to wade it more confidently had I not missed a great deal of what had gone on before. But I don't want my nose in every pie - that would overwhelm me. If someone asks me, I will tell them, or point them in the right direction (as I did to you, about Orion - on my Transition brick). I will do what I can in that regard...that was why I simply invited people on my Profile, to check out my Auto-bio Brick, and any other parts of my Profile they have access to, let them decide how much or how little they want to know - and if there are questions, they may ask. We've explained to newcomers about the "Splodge" and all Splodgy references, have we not? That's an easy one to answer, compared to others - sometimes I wonder if it would even be a good idea to send an explanation that takes a box of tissues and two hours of reading to a newcomer anyway. Like any new relationship anywhere, you don't learn everything about the people you've just met straight away. That's how I think of it. For a while you feel a little out of various loops; you may or may not find your way in, may or may not be made welcome in...I guess that's possible in theory - in practise I have only felt it so because of some of the obscure (to my ears/vintage!) language people are using to talk to each other - they have a shared language, I only sort of understand, a bit...they have their meeting of minds - that's okay by me, I find a meeting of minds with you, Jomo, Harmony, Inspire...the list goes on, and I really don't like leaving any names off, but you know....Isn't this why the new Networks are being created here are for?? Young people getting together, coming from more similar head spaces, able to freely use 'young' language, and be comfortable...that's cool. I feel no need to get in there and traipse about (don't turtles lumber? Oops - there's an 'in' reference a newcomer won't get, but is it vital that they do? I'll explain if curiosity compels them to ask...) trying to 'relate'...oh dear...

    :) -Mebenji

  • 19/08/2008 @ 01:11 butterfliesnroses said:
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    hey im butterfliesnroses; i just joined on like 20mins ago..........so that was a bit helpful and comforting....for this newcomer anywayz. im hoping in the next few days i will figure out how to work this............im awful at computers.........lol..........unlike most teens...... hopefully i will be joining in on things and understanding like an old pro......maybe........some things are better left unknown...dontcha think????
  • 19/08/2008 @ 04:17 roze said:
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    hi butterfliesnroses - welcome to Big White Wall. If you get stuck on finding your way around just give a shout and someone will come to your assistance. It can be quite daunting to start posting when you are new to a site. So well done - you made a start! Look forward to seeing you around, hugs roze
  • 19/08/2008 @ 08:41 MeerCat said:
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    UM, How like you to pick up on something someone says and go away and think about it so carefully.  I would be very sorry if anything I said prompted you to change one little bit the way you contribute to the wall.

    Yes I do sometimes yet a bit confused about themes and running jokes and conversations that cross over TAs but this has never made me feel excluded or caused me problems.  It would only be a problem if I felt I couldn't ask or join in. 

    On this one occasion I think references to other TAs may have caused amisunderstanding and a problem for someone and I tried to help by explaining how I saw it. 

    I would be particularly sad if anyone felt that the shared humour and quirkiness was a problem as that is one the features of this site that especially draws me to it.  I think the personality given to the wall by some of you long time contributors is also an important part of its specialness, it is very welcoming and supportive to new wallers as well as to those, like me, who chip in from time to time.

    Best wishes,

    Meercat xx

     

     

  • 19/08/2008 @ 08:50 MeerCat said:
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    Mebenji

    Long live turtles! (well actually they do don't they!)  You are right not to feel guilty about the fact that you have shared conversations on the wall with people over time.  It would only be a problem if you didn't like newcomers to join in and this not the case here.   If, as I believe did happen the other day, a reference to a previous conversation causes a mix up, it is easy to explain and put right once the confusion is recognised.

    In my view the thing is not to change the way people use the wall but to continue to encourage everyone to develop their own way of joining in.

    Best Wishes

    Meercatxx

  • 19/08/2008 @ 09:15 cate said:
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    Dear wise , meercat, you have raised an important point . I recantly watched a documentary on  Meercats . They are sociable,  well organised and  and caring of each other . You and your avatar  are a good fit.

    Cheers , Cate xx

  • 19/08/2008 @ 10:06 Jomo said:
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    In the first place, I was hesitant about joining in on conversations on bricks - even when invited to do so - because I felt that they were kind of personal spaces - now I realise that people put bricks and TA's up to invite response.  If they don't want a response on a brick, they block comments.  So I guess I wander around on the wall like an old duck in the park, poking my beak in here and there - and sometimes I poke it in and I don't like what happens!  EEK!  Just like real life, eh.

     

    My feeling is that people are welcomed, and questions are welcomed, and it is true that you feel your way round in any group, till you find your place - and some people are always on the edge, maybe they have other groups they are in the middle of - I always smile when YankeeBob pops in - not often, but then every once in a while, there he is, so I know that he is around, and reading, and I say a mental Hello, YankeeBob...

     

    Welcome to all new Wallers who come into this TA to see what it is about - and Mebenji used to have a purple turtle Avatar - she is morphing!  Some of us [blush...] change our avatars on a regular basis.  Have a good day, all -

    Jomo [she-who-changes-avatar-often - ha ha!]

     

     

  • 21/08/2008 @ 01:57 butterfliesnroses said:
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    i think im gonna love this site...reading the comments made me laugh......and i needed to laugh today was not my day....question:avatar????
  • 21/08/2008 @ 06:07 summer76 said:
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    hi butterfliesnroses, welcome. Good name. Avatar? Yes I was stuck at first. It is the symbol to the left of your posts. In the square.  Yours at the moment  is a patch of blue ink. The wall always gives us a blank one when we join. Become known as a 'Splodge' on here. If you look in the post above you from jomo you will see a Black Cat. Mine is a sunset. You can amend and give yourself your own from your profile page.
  • 21/08/2008 @ 21:09 butterfliesnroses said:
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    thank you summer76.......i get it now......."splodge" is very fitting.........friends??????????? anybody somebody???????/lol
  • 21/08/2008 @ 21:44 summer76 said:
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    Pleasure butterfliesnroses, nice to have you here. 'friends'? Yes we like to think we are. We come up with all sorts to greet each other, Posters, Wallers, brothers, sisters. Coming up with new ones every day. Whatever suits you

     

    Been here myself a few months. Still sorting it. Specially on the bricks. Some posters are regulars and very often 'go off on one', as it were, which might look confusing if you are new. Long tangled discussions that lead in directions no one intended. Some can be heavy and very long - curiously I am finding I always seem to be in on them. Hmmmm. Others Just dip in and post very occasionally. There is alot of very serious stuff but lots of humour too. Just dip into it in ways that suit you.  The one thing there is in abundance is help and support. Do not hesitate to call on it when you need to. Also some people on here have the IT sorted far more than me. So do not be shy to ask.

     

    Hope you find what you want

     

    regards summer

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