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2 things in your journey so far?

  • 08/10/2008 @ 21:31 summer76 said:
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    We get few chances on this lifes journey. Sometimes we take turns we either regret for the rest of our days or cherish them forever. In my case several of both.

    I also guess many of us on here think we have screwed up our life more than once, rather than have others screw it up.

    So going back to your hour of birth and putting a pen, paper (and prodigal fluent literacy) in your hand, what is the one thing you would change and the one thing you would keep in your lifes journey on this planet so far?

     

    This TA is a tribute to unionmaid, Brown Bear and swon (good to have you back) for their tireless posts on here. Also inspired by swon in the 'whither' TA

  • 08/10/2008 @ 22:49 Brown Bear said:
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    I want to add four more tireless posties - Benji, Harmony, Roze and Wolfie.  Much of their efforts are unseen on the Bricks.

     

    I've had such a good life that if I'd changed something I might have gone down the 'wrong' track.  I'll see if I can come up with something.  BB

  • 09/10/2008 @ 05:16 harmony said:
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    The one thing I would have changed was my parents.
  • 09/10/2008 @ 05:59 roze said:
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    The one thing i would have changed is that my mum had lived to see my daughter born (they missed one another by six weeks) and the one i would keep (and that is such a poor word for the emotion filling my heart) is the gift of my daughter in my life. Nice ta Summer!
  • 09/10/2008 @ 13:45 UMxx said:
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    Gosh this is something that is hard work Summer!  There are things that I wished had not happened to me but then in dealing with them I always wonder what I might have been like had I not been confronted by having to grow from the experiences.  I fear that with my somewhat strong personality I might have been quite a cold and demanding person and would never have had to reach within to pull out what is a fairly decent heart and love for others.  I am a bit conflicted by this.  I read this TA this morning and while I am getting tremendously excited about going on a two week holiday by myself tomorrow - this has been one conversation that has been circling my mind.

     

    Perhaps I would say this - I wish that I had learnt earlier to trust people and not soldier on believing that I was a freak and unable to connect with others.  

     

    And in terms of what I would never change - the day I sat in my friends house and saw a man in blue levies, blundstones, a red t shirt - carrying a wok and a box of groceries.  On a chance meeting I met my husband, we have two wonderful children and sure it is the work that happens in all marriages that makes it worthwhile but even when I am very sad about seeing a disease taking hold of his body I have no regrets of the past.  I would not give up a minute for a safer and longer future with someone else.

     

    be well brother summer

     

    UM xxxx

  • 09/10/2008 @ 13:51 Hoj said:
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    If i could go back I would have said NO to my parents when they arranged my marraige at 15!!! I will keep my two beautiful sons though!!

  • 09/10/2008 @ 19:47 summer76 said:
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    Thanks folks, some thought provoking and very moving replies. Not sure I can answer my own question yet. Got to thinking about it hence this TA but still cannot decide an answer. I envy some of your decisiveness.

     

    What was I thinking of in that tribute. Seconds after I posted the ommissions flashed before my face. Quite right BB, in my haste I forgot roze, benji, Harmony, Wolfie, jomo, cherry, spbd and no doubt others who keep this boat sailing. Thank you all

     

    Hugs

     

    summer xx

     

     

  • 09/10/2008 @ 20:07 summer76 said:
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    Oh no, further shame shower on me. I forgot the inspirational ant. This could run and run now. Who started it?
  • 09/10/2008 @ 20:09 summer76 said:
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    Drrrrrrrrrrrrr....and Overseas!
  • 09/10/2008 @ 21:05 harmony said:
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    You 're making me laugh Summer.   X Harmony
  • 09/10/2008 @ 21:42 Swon said:
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    If I could do it all again I would not have dropped out of school at 15 and college at 18 and again at 21.

     

    The one thing I would keep ( and this is going to sound very cheesy ) is my decision to join this community, because at long last it has helped me to realise that there are lots of other things I want to keep as well.

     

    Nice one Summer

  • 09/10/2008 @ 22:26 summer76 said:
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    OOOer, think I must be having 'a turn' this week. So bxxxxxxx forgetful and ommiting things and people, even when the obvious is flashing before me. I blame it on work. Been a shattering week with lots of travelling and very but very early mornings. Lie in tomorrow. No work. Unless you can call making a Will work.

     

    swon's post reminded me, the real smack banging whopper 'turn' that I took that I will regret even to the end of time is bowing to family pressure and leaving school at 15 without an academic qualification to my name. I still have'nt. I was really flowering in those last few years (13 - 15) and starting to find myself. The first happiness I had really known. Supported by a few fabulous teachers who begged me to stay on at least till 16. One of them was a student teacher who I count as almost my first 'love'. She was a woman and gorgeous in every way. Still remember her perfume.

     

    As it was I entered a drudge of a desert for 7 years. Fitting in like a spare groom at a wedding. Always regretted so bitterly not doing University. As a consequence I have always had rose tinted glasses about student life. Perhaps I would have been unhappy and lonely. It could not have been more lonely than the existence I found myself in. Thought of doing adult uni many times but it is not the same.

     

    So that is most definately the thing I bitterly and angrily regret and resent my family for so much. Stupid backward and insecure people. No wonder I no longer have any that I count.

     

    I will leave the thing I cherish for another summer epic.

     

    XX

     

     

     

  • 10/10/2008 @ 09:20 alba said:
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    I would like to have had more confidence..something happened about that in my teens..I think it would have changed a lot of things if I had more confidence
  • 10/10/2008 @ 12:14 cherry said:
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    What a wonderful TA Summer- you have such a fertile mind and unique ability to fire up our thoughts..

    However i will have to come back to this one as im feeling too pernickety to add a concise contribution .

    But i will return ...

  • 10/10/2008 @ 13:37 Swon said:
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    Summer,

    Now we can forever empathise about our wasted educations and wonder how the world might be different if two such great minds had fulfilled their potential.

    Odd that you blame your familly, I sort of blame mine but in a different way because they never treid to talk me out of leaving school but hey it was my decision so ultimately it's my fault.

     

    Remember though, as I've said before and have had brought home to me with a large whack very recently; the past is the past, it's gone and we can't change it.

    What has happened has shaped the people we are and now we have to deal with the fallout.

    Onwards and upwards my friend.

     

    swon

  • 10/10/2008 @ 14:17 Mebenji said:
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    Hi Summer fun, :)

    Well, like you, I feel rather indecisive about this question - will I ever come up with the right answer? What's the ONE single most important thing I would have had differently if I could have; the ONE thing that would have made all the difference from then on?  & in changing, how would that effect other lives, like would the girl next door have had a friend all through her teenage years, like I was? Of-course she would never have felt I'd let her down, or had become 'dead' to her either...Do I go and wish my mother was somehow a different kind of woman, or that my father had never re-married - would that difference be enough to keep my brother from abusing me, my step-sister getting involved with drugs and having a baby so young and going off and marrying an abusive man, and running from him, with her five month old baby? Do I go the whole hog and wish I'd had totally different parents, different genetic background and upbringing - hell, mine could have been worse! I know that too.

    However, what I'd really rather know it what would be the one thing I could change now, that would make a very deep and profound difference, one that would have far reaching effects on me and my relationships with others. One that would make me WANT to live and enjoy it. Perhaps I want a completely different attitude to life and myself, to what I can learn and do and how I feel about doing these things. Too much? Unreasonable? Sadly, I believe so. So it seems rather pointless asking or wishing or even trying...I do feel discouraged so easily.

    One thing to keep = perhaps her, Orion...I would never believe one could feel so deeply for another without having known her.

    Or music? Or writing?  Or art? I even want more of these, but from the very beginning, and with the guidance and encouragement of people who know the value of these things, beyond a 'hobby'. I think I would have very much liked to have been a composer.

    I would also like to only need or want 5 hours of sleep per day and have energy, discipline and passion enough to do all the art, writing and composing I've wished upon myself.

    Hmmm, it's too complicated, Summer.

    -Mebenji

  • 10/10/2008 @ 16:21 cherry said:
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    ok - i have given this some thought and it is a toughy .

    Regrets are so marring , diverse and potentionally  destructive and as UM, Swon and a very earnest heartfelt contribution from Mebenji have all added , it is not too easy to be pragmatic about the what ifs and the maybes.

    But i guess for me personally i regret not having the faith to believe in myself, or have the courage to take a risk - (covers a lot )

    I have missed out on a lot of positive oppotunities over the years because of this. (too worried about what others think etc )

    As for one thing i would keep - hmmm this one i cannot answer yet , i do not believe i can be concrete enough to pinpoint - darn , will have to work on it !!

    Cherry x

  • 10/10/2008 @ 17:07 alba said:
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    Cherry- I think you express what I feel- only better....I am convinced it would have made a difference to me..
  • 10/10/2008 @ 17:23 summer76 said:
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    Dealing with the 'fallout ' and the hear and now swon. Yes indeed. It occurs to me practically every other post I have made on here could come under that heading. As almost everyone else  has posted in here has said, I also am acutely aware of the good times I may not have had if things had been different. So I am grateful for some of fates chances.

    Though I have always regretted it, it is only recently that I can fully see the effects leaving shool early have had on me. That and the next 7 lost years explain so much believe me. Should have been the prime of my life after all.

     

    Not odd at all that I should blame my family for the decision at 15. Though I understand why they were like it, and really had no choice, it does not make it any better. Very poor, in every way, working class insecure background. As far as I remember no one in either side of my family and extended relations did 'school' or education. Outside their experience and expectations that anybody they knew, incl me, should have the ability or even want to do qualifications.

    The real pressure was 'we have supported you for these years, now earn a wage'. Culturally they knew no different. I may have just had a roof over my head for one further year if I had pushed it. But it was very well implied that if I continued into Higher Education I would be kicked out.

    It does not take much imagination to see the effect that has on a shy lad of 15, who already knew he was 'different' but didnt have a name for it. A lad who also lacked any confidence and was completely devoid of any praise or encouragment (apart from a few teachers). Again it is only recently the full extent of my families vacuum when it came to encouragement has hit me.

    I am now recalling a prize giving ceremony a few month after I had left. No big deal but like many who had left that year I had 'won' a few books of my choice for the grades I got in the exams. My parents showed no interest and frankly were too embarrassed and anti social to mix with other parents and come with me to the prize giving. Thinking about it I don't remember ever hearing the words 'well done' throughout my entire childhood or youth. Or for that matter since. 

    OK, not exactly abuse but I do recall the intense embarrassment I felt to be the only one there by himself. Hmmm sounds familiar that. Thinking about this now as I have said has really only made me realise, those books were about the first books I ever remember seeing around the house.

     

    Alright, understand I am not pretending this is some tale of Dickensian deprivation, where the hero strives against poor beginnings and against all odds succeeds and saves the planet. In spite of everything I understand and love and miss both parents. I forgave them long ago. I imagine they in turn had known little encouragement themselves and knew no different. But oh yes I do blame the entire bleak 'no expectation' culture they expected me to fit into.

     

     

    There is absolutely no doubt in my mind now that it fxxxxxx me up big time in so many ways, incl personality. My ex recognised the effect all this had on me early on, before I did. His background was not so different.

    Summing up I suppose an appropriate analogy might be going into a gambling game and finding that all the dice I have been given have had 'the six' wiped off them. Went on to get so used to it that if a 6 did appear I did not know how to handle it and frankly still don't.

     

    Yep, perhaps I may have been more sorted and happier if things had been different (I know I would). We do what we can with what we are given apparently. My problem here is I was not allowed to use what I had.

    On the positive side I am proud of the person I became. Something in me did eventually strike out of that multi faceted closet, all by myself. That break earned me  some incredibly happy years - and I hope more to come.

     

    So no we cannot change things, but if we forget where we came from, how can we know where we are or where we are going. (Who said that?)

     

    Alot of self understanding going on since I joined this site. Thanks folks

     

     

    hugs

     

    summer

     

    summer

     

    No

     

  • 10/10/2008 @ 18:10 Wolfie said:
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    We are proud of you too summer. Just wanted to tell you that. Wx
  • 10/10/2008 @ 20:57 Overseas said:
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    I'd go back in time when I was about to turn eighteen, leave everything behind me as I was planning to then, and head to the place I've never talked about to anyone.
  • 10/10/2008 @ 21:19 Swon said:
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    Summer,

    Sorry, I didn't mean you were odd for blaming your parents, I meant it was odd that we both did so. Not odd - wierd, but odd - co-incidental.

    Here we go with the languge thing again.....................

     

    Seriously though, you do write some cracking posts.

     

    Take care.

  • 12/10/2008 @ 10:39 woc said:
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    I screwed up so many times in my life, there were many times when i wished I could turn back the clock, when I wished I hadn't done the things I did and said the things I said, when I wished I hadn't being so lazy and studied a little harder. When I wished I had a different family. I just want a happy life, like so many others out there I believe. So what eggs you on to do better and be happier? The search for happiness is a lifelong, well, search.
  • 14/10/2008 @ 15:02 jules said:
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    wow..this really is a tough one. hahaha..thanks though for coming up with this ta. :D

    anyway, after long hours of thinking (instead of preparing for my AS exams)
    i think ive come to a conclusion.

    the one thing i'd definitely keep is my decision to go to boarding school.
    i may have hated it then, but i wouldnt give up all my memories there for the world now!! :)
    i know its made a better me in soooo many ways, and i love what ive become.

    what i'd change is allowing my dad to marry my stepmom. im sure i'd have a happier family without her and her kids. they've caused so many problems, and have also led to the break in our family connections. god. if only i could get rid of them..

     

  • 14/10/2008 @ 15:57 upsidedownandbackwards said:
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    wow this one made me think.

    If I could go back I would say no more to poeple that "loved" me. As I teen I had a HARD life and was looking in everyone for something I would never find. At times I would feel worthless after giving in to them even if was just don't talk to so and so, or as big as having sex befor I was really ready. I had a hard time saying no to "friends" and "loves" it made me a mess, but gave me a wonderful son.

    I would NEVER change moving away from my home town. I met my husband and he asked me to move 2 hours away with him and without to much thought I did just that. 4 years later I am happy and very in love with my family. I have been able to look at the life I had there and grow away from the things I didn't like about my life and who I was. I have been able to make friends that I know will always be a part of my life and really love me for who I am. I could never regret that move it changed my life.

  • 21/10/2008 @ 19:00 Wolfie said:
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    Je ne regret rein - is that how they say it? Do I regret? Actually not really - I suppose I wish I had known more about life in my early 20s, but I guess that's called learning. And what would I never change - my family and friends, pretty much all of them, bonkers as some of them are. Wx
  • 21/10/2008 @ 19:26 Overseas said:
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    Very close Wolfie, it's: Je ne regrette rien; and if you were quoting Edith Piaf famous song, it goes that way: Non, je ne regrette rien.

    OS°°° 

  • 21/10/2008 @ 22:44 summer76 said:
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    Impressive stuff Wolfie and Overseas, thank you both for taking this TA in a sophisticated and international direction. As for myself I am still struggling with my 'native' tongue, English. As I am sure is evident.

     

    Brings me to the other one thing I would change (Look it's my TA so I can cheat, ok).

    I would have learned one other language when I was younger. Indescribably envious of multilinguists. Languages should be compulsory from the moment of conception - an interesting educational challenge?

     

    Just to scatter any thoughts around change and negativity. I have also decided the thing I would cherish but it would take too long right now.

     

    Ta ra

     

    summer

  • 22/10/2008 @ 00:32 UMxx said:
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    Oh that is like a tease - summer - decided but take too long to share!  I will wait to learn.

     

    regrets and opportunities to learn a language.  Yes it is a "really would have like to with me also" maybe not a regret.  I have no apptitude for language except if it is in relation to food and then for some reason the level of engagement is higher !- or in my case broader !!

     

    But in my own space at the moment - the thing that this ta has done for me is to let me think of all of the "non regrets & good things " I have been able to take from a life that I otherwise find myself kind of thrust upon me. 

     

    cheers  Summer :)   

    UM xxx

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