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  • 19/08/2008 @ 03:42 [Twilight.of.the.Moon.] said:
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    Thanks to Unionmaid, I've decided to make my first TA about something I made on a brick.

    For at least seven years (since my second cousin has been born, I suppose), my Aunt and her part of the family -- the Jonses, we'll call them -- often talk about me behind my back. I suppose I appreciate that they don't say some of these nasty words to my face, but it hurts.

    Some of my favorites are:

     

    •  My cousin told my aunt that I smoked pot (probably because she still does, so she's trying to cover up for herself) and I gave it to my uncle to spot. Her sister wasn't sure she believed it, but when asked if she wanted to ask me, she wouldn't say a word
    • While on vacation, my aunt bought me a bikini and I guess that her and my cousin were making comments all over the place about how fat I looked.
    •  My uncle used to (before I went on vacation with them) remark about how bratty my little second cousin acted, and my aunt started on a rant about how much stuff I always demanded from everyone and how I don't appreciate a thing.
    Anyway, there are many other things, but that's just a few that I remember off the top of my head. So now, I'm curious if anyone else has these kinds of experiences or something similar to this? I would love to hear your stories. :3

     

  • 19/08/2008 @ 10:18 Jomo said:
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    Hello, Twilight - interesting thoughts and words, here.

     

    How do you know what they are saying behind your back?  Is someone else telling you about it?  That is what really stands out to me - how you know about it.  Because if someone is telling you what is said behind your back, and those things are hurtful, then one thing you can do is refuse to listen to them.

     

    Often, people who are repeating what is said about others privately are doing so to cause distress and dissent.  I don't know what might drive someone to want to cause upset - but families are full of undercurrents and feelings, aren't they?  And sometimes people say things in the heat of the moment, or in a moment's annoyance that they would not normally say - and families do tend to stress each other out.

     

    When I realised what was being done to me by a sibling in this regard, I refused to listen, refused to give them the satisfaction of "You'll never guess what so-and-so said about...", refused to hear, did not want to know.  If so-and-so wanted me to know, they would have told me themselves.  It was hard to do, and keep doing, and the sibling was offended - but I also realised that it was done to other people in the family as well as me, by the same person, and often taken out of context and completely distorted.  And other people were being told that I said this; or said that; also - sometimes totally out of context, distorted, or the tone I had used changed completely.

     

    Hope that you find your way through this okay - sending best wishes -

     

     

  • 19/08/2008 @ 11:59 Swon said:
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    Hello Twilight,

    "You can choose your friends but you can't choose your familly"

     

    One of the great truisms in my opinion.

    I come from a very small immediate familly, I am an only child and I have only two cousins, both female and older than me by at least 10 years. So, familly gossip never really played a part in my life.

     

    My wife on the other hand comes from a rather larger flock and the amount of back-biting and bad-mouthing that I've been aware of over the years is frightening.

    It has to be said that the single major cause seems to be jealousy and normally underlying that is money or at least some form of material wealth.

    That I can kind of understand but the other trigger goes to the other extreme of something someone said 45 years ago and now one side of the familly don't talk to the other side. You have to be careful who is invited to a wedding in case it upsets auntie Flo who was frightened by a doodlebug because second cousin twice removed Albert wouldn't let her in the air raid shelter.........and so it goes on.

     

    That's families I'm afraid and I have no real idea why it happens, it seems to be part of the way humans are; jealousy, insecurity or just an enjoyment of upsetting people. It's very annoying though, especially if the result is divisive.

     

    Take care.

  • 19/08/2008 @ 13:57 UMxx said:
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    There is a book that is really quite ancient now - John Cleese and his shrink - Families and how to survive them.  I think it was one of the first things I read.

     

    I agree with Jomo - if someone even looks like telling me gossip - I cut them off and tell them "you're right I'll never guess and I don't want to know".  I really, really , really hate gossips and gossip.  The trouble is it is kind of encouraged by all of those dreadful magazines at the supermarket that turn personalities private lives into something of significance for society when it is just gossip and nonsense.  Who coined the phrase "Cult of the personality?"

     

    And Swon is right some families are just marked by this behaviour - you might not stop family members from gossiping but you might have some sucess in teaching them that what they have to say has no power of attraction for you.    

     

    My family was the small one - and led by a very manipulative woman who used gossip to divid e and conquer.  It caused so much pain and damage.  My partner comes from a family twice the size of mine - but with a completely different family ethic - led my both parents - it is a much more loving group of people - tolerant - but not the manipulated behaviour of mine.

     

    Maybe we could think up one liners for you to avoid hearing gossip.

     

    UMxx

  • 20/08/2008 @ 03:48 [Twilight.of.the.Moon.] said:
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    Thank you guys for your replies--they're very helpful. As I'm still on the younger side of life, I find it a bit difficult to, you know, deal with this kind of thing.

    It was my aunt who told me all of those things, by the way, and she actually is bi polar, so I don't know... But, she's always been that way, spreading things that other people confide in her to others. You're all probably right, though, I should've stopped her from saying it--or walked away especially since I have found that my boycott on that side of the family has failed as I went out with my aunt today. Hah. 

     I really don't want to listen to what she says, but I don't want to cut her off in a way that would be rude and cause my mother to be upset. After all, my aunt still is my elder for the rest of my days.

     But, if you guys could help me come up with some one-liners to stop people, that would be great. And your replies are, once again, much appreciated. <3 

  • 20/08/2008 @ 04:54 Jomo said:
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    I guess one way of avoiding being told things is to stop the person, and say something like:

    "I understand that you were told this in confidence, by someone who trusted you, and I don't want to be the cause of your breaking someone else's confidence - I know you want to share this with me, but I will feel better for you, and for me, if we talk about something else".  And quickly move to subject on to something else that they like to talk about - whatever that is. 

    Or you can simply keep changing the subject - deflecting the person with comments - "Oh migosh, look at your pretty necklace!  Isn't that something?  Did you want a cup of coffee?" or if she says "Uncle Scrooge said..." you can just interupt with something like "Uncle Scrooge!  Isn't he just a darling?  I can't believe how well he is doing for his age, and you know, he is so fond of you, he is always saying how nice you are/well you are doing/etc."

    Often you need to have the words ready in your head - is there anyone you can practise with?  Someone to help you with this - someone who will perhaps help you to distract the person, or even intervene?

    One of my daughters is very alert to when I am feeling smothered/bothered/overcome and will simply slide into a conversation, taking it away from something that is distressing me, or deflect the person altogether so that I can gather myself, and calm down, overcome my anxiety.  She has never been asked to fill that role, she simply does it and I am very grateful. 

    So maybe you have someone who will assist you even if you need to ask them, and talk about it with them?  If you are quite young, there may be assistance available to you out there - can you get counselling, or help from someone?

    You don't say how young you are - can your parents help?  And as for your aunt always being your elder, that is true, and we give respect where it is due - but being older does not always mean being wiser, and respect can still be given without leaving yourself open to trouble and distress.  Do you see what I mean? - I do tend to waffle on a bit!

    Cheers -

  • 22/08/2008 @ 09:28 Wolfie said:
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    I come from a close, but slightly odd family! and one thing I have learnt from it all is that closeness of relationships ebbs and flows.  At one time you might be very close to a certain member of the family and then you may not be for a time.  The most important thing is that they are always part of your family and that in the direst of times, they will be there for you.

     

    I hope you can work through the petty and hurtful gossip and retain the familial relationship - you never know when you might need them or when they might need you.

     

    Wx

  • 22/08/2008 @ 10:25 ant said:
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    Hello Twotm,

     

    I just wondered if you have spoken to your mum - not to complain but to ask her the question that you have posed to us - your mother must know your aunt better than you - assuming she has known her for longer.  It isn't that you must speak to your mum but it might help.

     

    Perhaps before you start using the one liners - you could have a heart to heart with your aunt - I am keen on the line that Jomo uses above about not wanting your aunt to breach the confidence of others and that it makes you uncomfortable and how much you would relax if she didn't tell you this information.  

     

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