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Party or Public Speaking What's scarrier?

  • 28/05/2008 @ 22:24 UMxx said:
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    Do you ever have one of those moments when people look at you and you are wondering just how different you are?

     

    I was with colleagues the other day and was being encouraged to go to a big party - a celebration and I mumbled away about not enjoying big social gatherings while they laughed at my obvious discomfort.  One almost snorted as I am know to get up and speak in front of large crowds of people and not be nervous at all.  I don't think they really understood how different this feels to me.  

     

    Does anyone else understand my discomfort with social gatherings?

    UM  

  • 28/05/2008 @ 22:33 Swon said:
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    Hi UM,

     

    I can identify with that feeling, I've taught groups of 20 - 30 people and spoken to 100+ - no problem at all, be it rehearsed or off-the-cuff.

    But that's because you have the floor, you are in control and everyone is listening to you.

     

    At a social gathering the dynamics are different because people tend, initially at least, to gather in groups with people they know and regardless of how relaxed and outgoing you might be, it is not always easy to break in to other's space.

  • 29/05/2008 @ 04:38 roze said:
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    I feel most comfortable in large gatherings when either i know a lot of people there and/or have something to do whether that is speak or wander around getting people drinks. Without either of those comfort blankets it is more difficult. I feel, for me, it is something about having a profound disinterest in 'small talk' and that horrible feeling that everyone else knows everyone else. Which can only be topped by getting stuck in a corner with someone who has a profound interest in something like hydraulic pumps.
  • 29/05/2008 @ 06:27 el mariachi said:
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    I am with you UM, I find it a little daunting at times to be in a social environment with either strangers or people who are outspoken. I think I am very self critical of myself though. I eat healthy, I do 2 hours of weights, boxing and exercise a night and I still am not happy about myself appearance, was talking to Danni a good friend about this yesterday. I think for me it all started, well from what I can work out anyway when my mum and dad started making me see this doctor when I was 11, im only 5 ft 3 so for a guy that's pretty short. I think I was always ok with it growing up but when mum and dad wanted me to get those growth hormones it kind of made me upset because I didn't think there was anything wrong with it. The hardest part was that they were not well off so could not afford to pay for them so they tried to get the government rebate on it but to qualify you have to do all these hight, weight and blood tests and I was always just a tiny bit over the qualifying height. About 4 years into it I was pretty sad about it and told them I couldn't do it anymore, I accept it and will live with it but I think they left an imprint there.

    Like I know the majority of females say that size or looks don't count but they do trust me, look on any site like RSVP, find a female profile that wants a guy under 5 ft 8. Its rare. Still I think im a good person and it really isn't my fault. I guess what im saying is I know I have a great analytical mind, I just got a job where I travel all over Australia implementing a major software attaché for medium to big corporations so am dealing with high level management and new people all the time. So I can do this, its my job and I know this system and am confident in selling it, but I cant sell myself, I find it hard to talk to say someone I might be interested in. Totally get what your saying. You just described exactly how I feel about myself !!!!!

  • 29/05/2008 @ 09:11 tyler said:
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    I read somewhere that statistically people were twice as frightened of public speaking than they were of death!

    I am scared of neither public speaking, death or social gatherings - but I have very little patience with small talk too. I tend to just not say much at all and soak it in. I do a lot of public speaking at work so I think that makes a difference.

    One thing I have always wondered though. Why do people say 'imagine everyone is naked' to make others feel at ease before public speaking? I cant think of anything more terrifying that walking out to a crowd of naked hairy flabby people.

     

  • 29/05/2008 @ 13:33 Mebenji said:
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    uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,uh,uh...I shudder/laugh/shake....at both! ewwh! don't make me! Don't make me! Please please don't make me!

    Is that enough, UM?

    :) -Mebenji

  • 30/05/2008 @ 03:53 el mariachi said:
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    so true Tyler,  I hate those naked dreams where you are stranded somewhere naked, like its not really ever going to happen, its not like i actually could get all the way to the supermarket and think "bugger I forgot to dress this morning" 

     See im fine meeting new people and implementing new systems for them I think I just know that the product we install will make their job easier and its in their best interest to be nice to me because im installing it for them.  I am not trying to impress them or sell them anything, so generally I find people are nice when you are teaching them something that will help them in their every day tasks.

     

  • 30/05/2008 @ 22:27 summer76 said:
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    Hi folks, Party every time can be scarier. Like others here I almost daily speak to groups of 10 - 20 people, on occasion rising to the hundreds. I still daily remind myself how amazing that is for me - in my teens I was so shy (and closeted) I even had difficulty asking for a train fare. I get a real kick out of public speaking, probably for all the wrong reasons. It is ultimately an ego trip. Yet there is something in being the centre of attention and yet still in a strange way being anonymous - being the speaker. I read it is the same for some of the greatest actors.

    However I recall that when I had something like a social life, even my birthday party would cause me difficulty. Sometimes it was the wrong crowd or I could not connect in some way. Yet I remember I often relished being social with a group of people. Being an 'almost' only child my family and I hardly ever mixed with people. So when the chance came later in life I could get a real buzz from groups of people. The problem was, perhaps because of my formative years, I could often make a real hash of it, getting too drunk, embarrassing myself. No training I suppose?

    Your post yet again struck a chord because of my work situation. I am the only one on the team who now declines the occasional 'fun' night out. I am sure people on here can imagine how isolating that is for me and how I am treated as a consequence. I am either a snob, socially dysfunctional or just plain ignorant apparently. It just adds to their ridicule. The problem however is I began to get less and less 'fun' from the fun night out. Often going home angry that I had been forced to remain polite whilst listening to inane babble and some very prejudiced ignorance. Please understand they can be 'nice' people but incredibly judgemental. If you do not fit their world view there is something wrong with you.Ultimately they can be so patronising. I think I have been honest enough now and told so many of them that a few drinks would now result in them being quite offended with what I thought. Perhaps my days are numbered.

    There is so much more gone but gone on too long again

    Bye

    S76 X

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