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  • 03/12/2007 @ 19:57 thrash_unreal said:
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    so the jist of this is something katy said about my seeking help.

     

    it didn't occur to me until saturday, while at the bar with friends, when i had a major blow out/break down bc my husband's co-worker's girlfriend dutifully pointed out that i only ate half a sandwich and why was i scooping out the whipped cream from my hot cocoa? it wasn't as if i couldn't stand to gain a few pounds. it wasn't until i smacked my husband's hand away, until i realized i was crying that i really did have a problem.

     i'm just afraid i'm going to gain so much that the voice will creep back and the vicious cycle starts all over again. what then?

    if i try and i fail...i try again, right?

     

    i just have to try to get help. right?

  • 03/12/2007 @ 20:04 roze said:
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    Hey thrash-unreal.....sounds as if you had a very punishing time this weekend. What do you feel you were crying about on Saturday? Could you say a little more about what is happening for you? I am not quite sure what it is that you are trying and believing you fail at. Here and listening.
  • 03/12/2007 @ 20:20 thrash_unreal said:
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    i'm anorexic.

     

     which is kind of stupid considering i'm only around 120 pounds. the catch is, i don't look it. i'm not ultra skinny by any means. i don't look 'sick'. i eat just enough in a day that i don't get sick, just enough to keep people from knowing.

     

    as for saturday, it's just...people don't know when to stop, you know? my mother didn't know when to stop calling me names. even now, if i gain a pound she points it out. if i lose a pound, she says i need to eat. it's a cycle i can't win.

     

    and i know why i do it, i know why i restrict myself-- there are so many things i don't feel i have control over but this is something i do. i can stop myself from eating. i can only eat certain things. it's the only power i have most days.

     

    the catch is, i know it's wrong.

     

    i know i need to be better.

     

    my children are starting to notice.

  • 03/12/2007 @ 20:39 roze said:
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    I was sitting here unsure of how to reply - as i don't have much experience around emotionally and psychologically-led eating. So i will just reply as it comes and i hope i don't say anything inappropriate. It sounds like you are really unhappy and are not able to find support amongst family and friends - you mention both your husband's colleague's girlfriend and your mother as 'unhelpful'. Is there anyone around that you can talk to? And have you ever sought some advice from a specialist in the field? I understand that you focus on eating as it is something over which you have control. What is happening in the rest of your life over which you do not? And i hear that you are worried about your children noticing - are they of an age where they can make any sense of this? I don't want to bombard you with questions. I hear that you are in a painful and difficult place. Whilst it is probably wise to seek some expert help we are here to listen and give you emotional support in any way we can.
  • 03/12/2007 @ 20:57 thrash_unreal said:
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    my husband prefers to verbally beat it into me (the importance of eating), going so far as to start a fight over it. after three years, you figure he'd learn a way around it that doesn't involve a confrontation; he knows that i am all too willing to fight for myself because i feel like there's no one who wants to fight for me. almost like there's no one who wants to point out directly what i'm doing wrong and be there through the good and the bad of recovery.

     

    in my husband's mind, there is only one cure: to eat.

     

    my father and step mother are aware i have a problem-- they noticed it when i was pregnant with my son but out of 'fear of upsetting' me, they never said a word. a couple of weeks ago, i sat on the phone with my step-mother and discussed 'tricks of the trade,' so to speak and how my father may know but he refuses to say anything about it because he feels it's a battle he can't win.

     

    and my grandmother is another story entirely.

     

    my best friend and i haven't really discussed it, but a few other friends know. they don't understand.

     

    and i've looked for professional advice before...but it's almost a game. you do what they say to, you're allowed to go back to your life, you go back to what you were doing before. but i'm really going to try this time.

     

    as for what's happening in my life...we found out saturday (hence hitting the bar that night) that the two girls that were 'supposedly' my husband's by his ex truly are his which led to a bunch of things running through my head, namely the child support we can't afford. the whole situation surrounding her is just unbelievable (there's no rest for the wicked). i wanted nothing more than these children to not be his just so i could feel justified in punching her in the face for all she's put us through (last sunday was the first time we saw them in a year. she would flip out if she knew). i've gone so far as to plan a million and one ways to do away with her...and i'm not really that kind of person. what complicates that is that for three years, my husband has buried his face in the sand when it comes to her, choosing to start a fight with me versus starting a fight with her.

     

    thankfully, that's almost over.

     

    i hope.

     

    my children are only almost 2 and almost 4, but my daughter now eats less than she used to, using mommy as an example of why she isn't hungry. i don't think she fully comprehends it, just mimics. and that kills me.

  • 03/12/2007 @ 21:15 Wolfie said:
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    Hi thrash unreal.  I read your posts with great interest and i have great empathy for your situation.  I understand what it is like to try and take control - sometimes you succeed adn sometimes you don't.  What i often ask myself is why it is so important that I am in control.  If I am not in control what happens?  It is interesting that the only answer I usually come up with is nothing much at all.

    With regards your anorexia, if it is as serious and as long lasting as your post suggest - you must seek professional help.  No amount of support from the people on Big White Wall or the people in your family is going to be able to give you a long term solution.

    Please do seek treatment - but please do come back and let us know how you get on.  Use us as a sounding board and a shoulder to cry on - that is what we can do very well indeed - but we probably can't make you better.

    I wish you all the best.  I am sure with some professional guidance you will find a happy medium and please let us know how you get on.

    Love Wolfie 

  • 03/12/2007 @ 21:23 thrash_unreal said:
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    dear big white wolf,

     

    thank you.

     

    i know that the support i get here or from the rest of my life isn't going to be a fix-all. but band-aids do occasionally take away the hurt, even if only for a little while. if i make friends here, i have someone who can show me that it's only a moment of temporary insanity and that i am doing the best i can, that by being in therapy, i'm doing what i should instead of what gets me by.

     

    wow. that made me sound like i use people.

     

    that isn't it at all.

     

    i just need better friends in my life than what i have. you know? :)

  • 03/12/2007 @ 21:35 Wolfie said:
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    Yep - you need friends who will do what friends should do - friends who are supportive and there for you - and I hope we can help you with there....  And it's not about using people - if people don't want to be supportive, there's not much you can do to make them!

    I will make you my friend on Big White Wall and I hope you will do the same for me - I am here if you need me and if I am not around I can vouch for the others on Big White Wall who I am sure will be here to listen and support.

    Love Wolfie 

  • 03/12/2007 @ 21:49 roze said:
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    I am here too. As for your daughter i understand that. Whilst going through a very bad time early this year i self harmed. I cannot tell you that this is so not my usual way of dealing with anything - i was truly in a bad way. One day my daughter came into the room with her hand over her arm. She did not want to show me what was there. Eventually i saw - a perfect O of teeth marks which lasted as a bruise for several days. She had hurt herself to be like mummy although there was no way she can  have 'known' how my hand got damaged. I would count that as one of the very worst moments in my life.

    And then listen. Last night we were chatting in the kitchen - and i said you remember earlier this year we did something or other ...and my kid said 'yes - you were not very happy then mummy' and she looked at me with such deep wisdom and added 'but you are better now'. So long as we hold them and don't try to over-protect them and love them as best we can - our kids will get through. Look after yourself now and try not to worry about your daughter - she is just showing she empathises in her four year old way.

    Have courage! And share here whenever you feel the need. Hugs.

  • 04/12/2007 @ 15:31 ChocolateCake said:
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    hi thrash, I'm so glad you're talking about how you feel, and you're right about the bandaid - it works for me, and you know, if the bandaid takes the pain for even a short time it helps me clear my head a fraction to see things in a more approachable way.

    I hope you don't mind me asking you something - I was wondering if the way you eat, doing things like the cream-scooping, only eating enough to get by, is a way of subconsciously signally to the people around you that you're not happy? As long as your husband continues to row with you about your eating, then he's noticing you, right? When you say you don't talk about it with friends is that they have tried to talk to you about your health or dieting and you've refused, or is it the completey unmentioned elephant in the room? Sometimes those around us notice a lot more - or an awful lot less - than we realise. Or as I found out in my case, getting completely the wrong end of the stick, to point where it actually was more damaging.

     

  • 04/12/2007 @ 23:27 dorisday said:
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    Hey thrash - lot goin down. i know sh1t about any of this stuff but sounds kinda heavy and jus wanted to say 'hold on in there gerl'.
  • 11/02/2008 @ 03:21 luxom said:
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    I can relate, at the height of my anorexia I only weighed 67lbs. I don't weigh much more right now, but I can tell you that I will most likely never meet you but that I will always be here for you. I will never tell you what to do with your life, but I will tell you that I will care and I will support you, I will understand.

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