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Alcohol - showing its true colours?

  • 12/11/2007 @ 10:44 AliceinWonderland said:
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    My partner and I went to a dinner at the weekend and following the usual argument, I drove to the party.  What I then witnessed, from a sober view point which is rare, was a group of grown ups getting well and truly drunk.  What has prompted me to post today, is ‘do people actually show their true colours’ when they are drunk?  I noticed people becoming more and more aggressive, rude, tactless and insensitive. Yes, we all know that alcohol removes our inhibitions but what is bothering me is, do people actually say what they mean when the tongue is loosened and ultimately show their true personalities?  I am deeply troubled by this and I've learned an interesting lesson.
  • 12/11/2007 @ 12:30 Swon said:
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    Alice,  sad to say I think that what people say when they're drunk tends to be what they are afraid or unwilling to say when sober. Sometimes it can be something nice but very often it's not. I know from personal experience that if I have too much to drink, which I don't do very often anymore, then I really have to curb my tongue for fear of causing hurt to others.

  • 12/11/2007 @ 13:18 Latchmere said:
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    god, that's such a coincidence, I was going to post on something really similar. I've finally admitted to friends recently that I just don't like people when they're drunk. It was a first stage attempt to subtly let one particular friend know that I think she has a problem. She gets quite aggressive when she's had too much to drink. I really want to sit her down and tell her straight that there's a problem, but a different mutal friend has said "tough, it's non of your business, she's a grown up" and basically said butt out and stop being a martyr. Ehhh, sorry, it is my business, because I'm the only one who seems to care that she gets home in one piece, without a row, or something awful happening. She spoils the end of most evenings out and my other friends are now out right saying they'd rather I didn't invite her things. What does anyone else think? I'm not her mother, but surely as a friend I owe her the truth? Or am I being some holier than thou pompous nightmare??
  • 12/11/2007 @ 19:59 AliceinWonderland said:
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    I really don't think you are being holier than thou.  I do think that as a good friend, you should feel that you are able to have an honest and frank conversation with her.  Often though, people who excessively drink, they become immediately irritated if you suggest they drink to excess.  Deep down they probably known they have a mild problem but you could do your best and try to help your friend at this stage, before the problem develops into something far more serious.
  • 12/11/2007 @ 20:32 Swon said:
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    Alice:-  You are so right, noone like to have their failings pointed out to them, be it drinking too much or anything else. We all like to think we are perfect, the only one who is always right etc, but sooner or later we find out the truth, and it can hurt.     Latchmere:- One approach is to start by making it clear that what you are about to say, you are saying as a friend and because you care. Whoever you are talking to could still react in an aggresive manner, but at least you will have gone in gently. Hopefully they listen and think about what you say, if so, it's maybe worth probing a little to get to the reason behind the drinking, everyone I've ever known who turns to drink (myself included) always had a reason over and above 'enjoying a few beers'.  
  • 12/11/2007 @ 20:59 bill said:
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    Think the title of this talkabout should be alcohol showing your true colours. It is no game - alcohol is a drug as serious as heroine. Worse if you look at the statistics of the damage and costs (social and economic) that it causes. Some people say what they would not otherwise say. Some people get beyond that into a state where they do not know what they are saying. Been there - done both - got the t-shirt. Just know - that it is not such a light issue as speaking the truth having had a few. It is only restless tongues that loosen with drink.
  • 13/11/2007 @ 12:02 AliceinWonderland said:
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    Thanks for your reply.  I fully appreciate that the situation with alcohol addiction can often be far worse and more grave.  This is a major concern.  How many of the heavy drinks I witnessed realise the damage they are doing to their livers, how many realise the hurt they can sometimes cause to others when tongues are loosened but far worse, how many of them may go on to develop a serious problem/addiction.  As somebody who absolutely enjoys a glass of wine or four, abstaining because I was driving, has been a valuable insight and lesson.
  • 15/11/2007 @ 16:12 roze said:
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    The think about drinking is knowing that you can not drink too. I have several days a week now when i don't even have one glass of wine. Then i may drink a bottle or two with a friend in the evening. it is enjoying it and not using it. I used to count the minutes until six o'clock and i could sit down with a glass of wine!
  • 22/02/2008 @ 21:44 fed.up said:
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    oh, count the minutes till six o'clock? I still do....
  • 22/02/2008 @ 22:21 roze said:
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    well fed.up i sure did tonight. Thanks for the reminder
  • 23/02/2008 @ 02:14 johnf said:
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    There was an old story about researchers finding female hormones in beer: give a man twelve cans in quick sucession and suddenly he talks a lot of nonsense and can't drive...

    But seriously, alcohol is a relaxant (not a stimulant as many would have you believe) and as such lowers inhibitions. Aggression we may feel when sober but repress because of cultural necessities will come out when we have had a few too many. That doesn't mean that we believe what we say - the shock value is enough to release the aggro.

    Like many things used by humankind, alcohol used responsibily  is a boon, misused is a scourge.

  • 23/02/2008 @ 16:35 badgirls said:
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    Life without wine is no life at all.

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